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Frozen Fallout
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Posted - 2006.12.06 23:11:00 -
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I do have to say that WoW has better PvE in that its more diverse, more story driven, and you can easly group and sometimes need to group in order to finish the mission. Not only that you can group with just about anyone and alot of people like to group with people they don't know with out fear of being killed by the guy. In PvE in WoW you don't need to worry about PvP. I personly like the idea of having to worry about PvP when PvEing, but its not something that PvEers are looking for if you want to PvE you PvE, not do something in the middle of PvE and PvP. Also Eve has more options of PvP that can interfer with PvE like anything done in a 0.0 or Cargo stealers that are in 1.0 (yes I know you can lock your cargo if you have the skills but not everyone has the skills and well people that do that are just *******s if you ask me) and now with the new patch You have people entering into Mission zones and stealing kills, cargo and wrecks!
In WoW PvE is strait forward and the main part of the game. You can easly PvE with a group of people (sometimes a huge group) even if you have only been playing for a few hours and don't know anyone. You can just ask for help and people give it to you with out fear of them turning on you.
And How does being the leader stop someone form stabing you in the back if you are in 0.0 Now you can just not openly ask and search for the right person and join a corp but that isn't the point. Its easier to PvE in WoW!
So on PvE I would say WoW wins but who cares! PvP is what Eve is all about. Players interacting with each other in the market and in space killing each othere or pricewaring in the market. Its cool its what Eve is.
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Frozen Fallout
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Mecha Enterprises Group
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Posted - 2006.12.07 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Frozen Fallout on 07/12/2006 18:12:58
 Originally by: Neon Genesis
Originally by: Frozen Fallout
I do have to say that WoW has better PvE in that its more diverse
No, it's the other way around. Wow pve is extremely samey. There have already been hundreds of good reasons given in this thread.
Originally by: Frozen Fallout
more story driven
Like DS said, wow story is some half assed dialogue box that substitutes a generic fetch quest with a generic kill 50 boars quest. How many times has sovereignty over a huge part of the map changed due to huge wars in wow?
Never.
Ok I think you missed my point all together. Eve is a PvP game not a PvE game. It has elements of PvE in it but the focus is in PvP. You cant get away from the PvP to do PvE at all. You cant even be in a dead zone now and be safe from PvP.
I think that's great! I like it. But I think it takes away from the PvE elements alot.
THIS IS NOT A PvE GAME people. This is a PvP game. Look around on the forums for a while and find anyone complaining about PvE in the game (alot of whiners out there :P) and you will see a lot of vets jumping on them and telling them that this is not a PvE game and if they cant handle it go play WoW which is a PvE game.
Tell me if someone came to you and asked you to suggest a game that they don't have to deal with PvP in and only wanted to do PvE would you say that Eve is the best choice for them. If you do Im sure your friend with in 14 days of playing or less (probably less) will give up the game and go to a game like WoW where you can PvE to your hearts content and never have to worry about PvP. NEVER! If you so please it. Eve you cant avoid the PvP even in a 1.0 area.
I like Eve for what it is a PvP game with PvE in it. I like space ships and blowing things up. I have always wanted to fly a spaceship form world to world. Now I can thanks to this game. But just because I like this game way way way way way way more then WoW doesn't cloud my mind on the subject of what the game really is A PvP GAME! I have played both games and dropped WoW after like 2 months because I got board of PvE and the PvP gave me 1 month (out of the 2 I played) more of play time with it until I decided that the PvP sucked.
I think Eve has a long way to go before they can take the PvE crown away from WoW. But who cares (Im sure CCP doesn't care) if Eve win the PvE crown. Eve is not a PvE game and there are more important things to upgrade and improve in the PvP area of the game then work on PvE elements that would give Eve the boost it would need to be better then WoW in PvE.
PS: I think it would be really cool if they gave a voice and a personality to each agent. I don't even read the missions anymore I just do what they tell me to do like kill this or droop this off. I don't care why but if the Agent actauly had a voice to TELL me what is going on story wise for the mission I would listen and probly see that crown be sweeped way from WoW but like I said there are tons of othere improvements that need upgrading before this.
Edited for spelling
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Frozen Fallout
Gallente
Mecha Enterprises Group
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Posted - 2006.12.07 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
I wanted to chime in here for a moment. First, I wanted to thank the EVE community for supporting EVE in the Reader's Choice awards. The awards are about you and your opinions, not what some editor or game critic thinks is the hot thing on the market this week. From what I have been lead to believe, EVE is doing extremely well in the poll.
Now, about this debate on whether EVE is a PvP game, a PvE game, or a game with both? When it comes to this poll, does it really matter? Sure, EVE is a PvP game and has been advertised as such for a very long time. However, EVE has evolved and incorporated many changes so that PvE is a part of the EVE experience. Does EVE have the best PvP and PvE experience? That's up to you.
I'll be the first to admit I would love the Marketing department to be able to start up a new banner campaign with a slogan along the lines of "EVE sweeps the MMORPG.com Reader's Choice Awards and sweeps WoW under the rug!", but the poll is about what you think. Vote what you think is right and if you vote for another game, I promise you won't be put on a Pod On Sight list. 
Ok I stand corrected CCP does care :) which is a good thing :)
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Frozen Fallout
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Posted - 2006.12.07 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Zeknichov
Here's my thoughts on the subject. WoW got nominated for PvP therefore EVE more than deserves to be nominated for its PvE.
This is soooooo true
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Frozen Fallout
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:02:00 -
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One thing I do have to say about the PvE is that its good for the people that are new to the game. Just starting out alot of what you will be doing is PvE with your incounter with PvP for most people. There are alot of diffrent PvE elements into the game but PvP does get in the way alot. I like the PvE and the PvP in the game and think mixing the two is great but I think the PvE in this game is but a shadow compared to the PvP. I haven't desided to vote on the PvE award as of yet because I am still deciding as of yet because I really don't like WoW at all and I think Eve is way better but I do know what WoW is a PvE focused game that you can do PvE with out the threat of PvP. And Eve has a good PvE that cant be done with out the Threat of PvP.
So basicly Im deciding if this makes Eve's PvE better or worse. My inital reaction is worse but then again it adds an element to the PvE. Then again PvE just seems to be an element to the PvP in this game.
Anyway in the end I think I will vote for Eve now that I have had some time to think about it and have read alot of the posts here.
And about the whole patch messing things up this happens all the time in MMORPGs. They will fix it don't worry and yes things get nerfed and new things scare vet players in all MMORPGs. Yes there are problems with glitchs and the like from the patch but that should be expected. Ever play Ultima Online? You should see what kinda changes where made to mess that game up all the time when I big patch came out.
Also be happy you don't have to pay to get the new expation for this game almost all other games would make you pay 30-50$ more just to continue playing with everyone else. Hell Ultima Online had like 5 expations that you had to pay for if you wanted the new cool stuff. CCP could be way way worse!
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